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circular
Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 10
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 6:47 pm Post subject: Some things I noticed |
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Well, the newest beta is looking very, very nice. I enjoy using it. Pierre, excellent work and I hope to keep using this app.
(rendered with art of illusion)
Here are some "ergonomic" bugs I would love to see fixed; I am using OpenGL with an nVidia FX5500:
-these areas flicker while resizing a box mesh: object list and axes display (xyz)
-open new window above ppmodeler (like notepad) and then minimize, leaves a huge white area in the ppmodeler window (graphics glitch?). Have to minimize/maximize ppmodeler again to fix this, or rotate the scene a bit.
-mouseover-ing on menu items causes flicker
-sometimes menus (like render menu, etc) will open "behind" the 3D canvas when clicked.
-any way to change the monospace font from courier to something else?
-dropdown boxes (like in Cfg --> Start) sometimes take more than one click to activate
-sometimes submenus (like export) disappear on mouseover, requiring a second mouseover.
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craouette Site Admin
Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Posts: 652 Location: luxembourg
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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Hello,
thanks for your comments.
What is your operating system ? 95 ? 98 ? 2000 ? XP Home ? XP Prof ?
I don't have these problems, so I need more info in order to reproduce them.
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circular
Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 10
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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This is in XP Home, service pack 2. Thanks! |
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craouette Site Admin
Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Posts: 652 Location: luxembourg
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:37 pm Post subject: Re: Some things I noticed |
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circular wrote: |
-these areas flicker while resizing a box mesh: object list and axes display (xyz)
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I can reproduce this, and I will fix it.
circular wrote: |
-open new window above ppmodeler (like notepad) and then minimize, leaves a huge white area in the ppmodeler window (graphics glitch?). Have to minimize/maximize ppmodeler again to fix this, or rotate the scene a bit.
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Unable to reproduce it... I test it on XP Home and ATI 9000 PRO.
Will serach to see If I found this problem describe somewhere else...
circular wrote: |
-mouseover-ing on menu items causes flicker
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Will fix this.
circular wrote: |
-sometimes menus (like render menu, etc) will open "behind" the 3D canvas when clicked.
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not able to reproduce it... will have a look.
circular wrote: |
-any way to change the monospace font from courier to something else?
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Trying to do this on most part of the main window. still have to do it on the other windows...
circular wrote: |
-dropdown boxes (like in Cfg --> Start) sometimes take more than one click to activate
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Ok, will fix.
circular wrote: |
-sometimes submenus (like export) disappear on mouseover, requiring a second mouseover.
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The submenu disapera when the mouse leave the current main menu item.
Will try to make it less sensible.
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circular
Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 10
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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Great, thanks Pierre! I realize these are not major problems so I'm glad you can take the time to fix them. |
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craouette Site Admin
Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Posts: 652 Location: luxembourg
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:41 am Post subject: |
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Can you download the latest beta (updated today, see this thread), and check for the flickering problems ? font problems ?
I have to fix the combo problem... will do this soon.
I also notice that the parameter area is not updated when moving a mesh.
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circular
Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 10
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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Okay, I downloaded it and tested for a while:
Resizing box: Red FOV text (upper right-hand corner) flickers a tiny bit but that's it. Thanks for fixing the other parts!
White overlap problem: Still there, I guess it's difficult to track down.
Mouseover-ing on menu items causes flicker: Still there.
Sometimes menus (like render menu, etc) will open "behind" the 3D canvas when clicked: Still happens
Menus disappearing: Seems fixed, thank you! |
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craouette Site Admin
Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Posts: 652 Location: luxembourg
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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circular wrote: |
Mouseover-ing on menu items causes flicker: Still there.
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What ?
I fixed this... what do you mean exactly ? |
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circular
Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 10
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, I know you worked on it, but it is still flickering for me I don't have any other apps that do this (3D or not) so I'm at a loss as to what might be happening. Basically it's as if all the menu items refresh every time you roll over one menu item. I think this is where the flicker comes from.
I tried to make a video of it, but I guess because of the hardware acceleration it didn't show the flicker. It did show one menu opening behind the 3D canvas, but I guess you already know about that. |
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craouette Site Admin
Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Posts: 652 Location: luxembourg
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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:01 am Post subject: |
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No, video won't work.
I'm very surprised.
I have no flickering at all. I change the drawing function of menu, so that only the box around the selected item is redrawn. And it is working for me, no flickering a all.
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topSurfeur
Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Posts: 58
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 4:10 am Post subject: Crash apres rotation |
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Bonjour pierre,
J'ecris en francais car ce sera plus precis, car mon anglais est ....pas terrible
Pour obtenir le crash:
1) demarre ppmodeler (mode 1 vue 3D)
2) selectionner NEW dans le menu
3) crash du logiciel
Le crash n'est pas repetitif.
Parfois il faut telecharger un objet (et ou) le faire tourner puis faire NEW dans le menu.
J'ai remarque que la fenetre SAVE IT n'apparait pas si l'objet vient juste d'etre charge dans ppmodeler, bien sur dans le cas ou je fais NEW dans le menu deroulant
J' ai egalement remarque des sautes d'images lors d'une rotation complete de l' objet ou de l'environement. Il faut faire tres doucement pour le voir. Mais ce n'est pas repetitif.....
Config
Portable ACER 1522
AMD 64 athlon
512 ram
Nvidia FX GO 5700 - 64 ram video
WIN XP pack 2
les dernier driver et patch windows
J'ai vue egalement des scintillements de l'interface qui sont "desagreable" a la longue. peut etre est-ce un probleme de synchro (rafraichissement) ?
Pourquoi tu n'as pas utilise les bouton et fenetre windows ? peut-etre est refaire la roue
Voila, si plus d'infos je suis dispo.
Laurent |
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craouette Site Admin
Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Posts: 652 Location: luxembourg
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:27 am Post subject: |
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je vais voir pour new... ce n'est pas une fonction que j'utilise bien souvent, et il est fort possible qu'un bug se soit glisser dedans avec le temps....
pour les scintillement, dis moi ou ca apparait ?
tu le vois dans les menus ?
pour l'interface, un peu pour reinventer la roue, mais surtout pour avoir un truc portable....
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topSurfeur
Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Posts: 58
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:31 am Post subject: |
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Bonjour,
Pour les scintillement il suffit de d' utiliser les dropDown button du control panel.quand ils disparaissent on peut voir ces fameux scintillements. Si on ouvre et ferme et ainsi de suite on peut le voir. Certainement que les fenetres sont rafraichis si vite que l'ecran n'a pas le temps de reecrire la fenetre en entier. l'effet est plutot "genant". J'ai deja vue dans un logiciel 3D cad un procede qu'il appelait "interrup redraw" cela permet d'afficher le dessin dans son entier lorsque on le deplace ou le fait tourner et ce malgre un nombre tres important d'arretes sans pour cela ralentir le logiciel.
On peut voir egalement voir les fenetres du "control panel" scintiller a fond si on deplace le "manipulators" dans la fenetre de dessin.
La colone d'icones ne semble pas affectee par ce deplacement.
Je continu les tests, en esperant que tu trouves la soluce. merci
Laurent |
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topSurfeur
Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Posts: 58
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:13 am Post subject: Un mechant bug par Visual C++ |
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Bonjour
J'au pu attraper ce bug a travers visual C++ v6
J'etais en train d'utilser la touche ctrl + boutton souris gauche quand soudain j'ai constate la disparition de la fenetre d'icone a gauche et la fenetre de modelisation. rien que ca
Voila les donnees VC6
005E7169 add eax,1
005E716C mov dword ptr [ebp-10h],eax
005E716F mov ecx,dword ptr [ebp+8]
005E7172 mov edx,dword ptr [ebp-10h]
005E7175 cmp edx,dword ptr [ecx+4]
005E7178 jge 005E71EC
005E717A mov dword ptr [ebp-14h],0
005E7181 jmp 005E7195
005E7183 mov eax,dword ptr [ebp-14h]
005E7186 add eax,1
005E7189 mov dword ptr [ebp-14h],eax
005E718C mov ecx,dword ptr [ebp-18h]
005E718F add ecx,4
005E7192 mov dword ptr [ebp-18h],ecx
005E7195 mov edx,dword ptr [ebp+8]
005E7198 mov eax,dword ptr [ebp-14h]
005E719B cmp eax,dword ptr [edx]
005E719D jge 005E71E7
005E719F mov ecx,dword ptr [ebp-18h]
005E71A2 cmp dword ptr [ecx],0FFFFFFFFh
005E71A5 jne 005E71C4
005E71A7 mov dword ptr [ebp-24h],1
005E71AE push 0
005E71B0 mov edx,dword ptr [ebp-10h]
005E71B3 push edx
005E71B4 mov eax,dword ptr [ebp-14h]
005E71B7 push eax
005E71B8 mov ecx,dword ptr [ebp-0Ch]
005E71BB push ecx
005E71BC call dword ptr ds:[72F040h]
005E71C2 jmp 005E7183
005E71C4 mov edx,dword ptr [ebp-18h]
005E71C7 mov eax,dword ptr [edx]
005E71C9 push eax
005E71CA call 005E626B
005E71CF add esp,4
005E71D2 push eax
005E71D3 mov ecx,dword ptr [ebp-10h]
005E71D6 push ecx
005E71D7 mov edx,dword ptr [ebp-14h]
005E71DA push edx
005E71DB mov eax,dword ptr [ebp-0Ch]
005E71DE push eax
005E71DF call dword ptr ds:[72F040h]
005E71E5 jmp 005E7183
005E71E7 jmp 005E7166
005E71EC cmp dword ptr [ebp-24h],0
005E71F0 je 005E72BA
005E71F6 mov ecx,dword ptr [ebp+8]
005E71F9 mov edx,dword ptr [ecx+4]
005E71FC push edx
005E71FD mov eax,dword ptr [ebp+8]
005E7200 mov ecx,dword ptr [eax]
005E7202 push ecx
005E7203 mov edx,dword ptr ds:[0A7C55Ch]
005E7209 imul edx,edx,2Ch
005E720C mov eax,dword ptr [edx+0A7C568h]
005E7212 push eax
005E7213 call dword ptr ds:[72F058h]
005E7219 mov ecx,dword ptr [ebp-8]
005E721C mov dword ptr [ecx+0Ch],eax
005E721F mov edx,dword ptr [ebp-8]
005E7222 mov eax,dword ptr [edx+0Ch]
005E7225 push eax
005E7226 mov ecx,dword ptr [ebp-0Ch]
005E7229 push ecx
005E722A call dword ptr ds:[72F030h]
005E7230 mov dword ptr [ebp-10h],0
005E7237 mov edx,dword ptr [ebp+8]
005E723A mov eax,dword ptr [edx+8]
005E723D mov dword ptr [ebp-18h],eax
005E7240 jmp 005E724B
005E7242 mov ecx,dword ptr [ebp-10h]
005E7245 add ecx,1
005E7248 mov dword ptr [ebp-10h],ecx
005E724B mov edx,dword ptr [ebp+8]
005E724E mov eax,dword ptr [ebp-10h]
005E7251 cmp eax,dword ptr [edx+4]
005E7254 jge 005E72BA
005E7256 mov dword ptr [ebp-14h],0
005E725D jmp 005E7268
005E725F mov ecx,dword ptr [ebp-14h]
005E7262 add ecx,1
005E7265 mov dword ptr [ebp-14h],ecx
005E7268 mov edx,dword ptr [ebp+8]
005E726B mov eax,dword ptr [ebp-14h]
005E726E cmp eax,dword ptr [edx]
005E7270 jge 005E72B8
005E7272 mov ecx,dword ptr [ebp-18h]
005E7275 mov edx,dword ptr [ecx]
005E7277 mov dword ptr [ebp-1Ch],edx
005E727A mov eax,dword ptr [ebp-18h]
005E727D add eax,4
005E7280 mov dword ptr [ebp-18h],eax
005E7283 cmp dword ptr [ebp-1Ch],0FFFFFFFFh
005E7287 jne 005E72A2
005E7289 push 0FFFFFFh
005E728E mov ecx,dword ptr [ebp-10h]
005E7291 push ecx
005E7292 mov edx,dword ptr [ebp-14h]
005E7295 push edx
005E7296 mov eax,dword ptr [ebp-0Ch]
005E7299 push eax
005E729A call dword ptr ds:[72F040h]
005E72A0 jmp 005E72B6
005E72A2 push 0
005E72A4 mov ecx,dword ptr [ebp-10h]
005E72A7 push ecx
005E72A8 mov edx,dword ptr [ebp-14h]
005E72AB push edx
005E72AC mov eax,dword ptr [ebp-0Ch]
005E72AF push eax
005E72B0 call dword ptr ds:[72F040h]
005E72B6 jmp 005E725F
005E72B8 jmp 005E7242
Il m'indique par une fleche jaune cette adresse que tu peux retrouver au-dessus dans le prog "disassembly"
005E71A2 cmp dword ptr [ecx],0FFFFFFFFh
Les valeurs suivantes accompagnent le bug
Unhandled exception in ppmodeler: 0xC0000005 : Acces violation
Context ppmodelre! 005e71a2()
Name: this
Value: Cxx0017: Error: symbol "this" not found
Voila j' espere que c'est une bonne piste
je continu les tests a plus
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topSurfeur
Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Posts: 58
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:22 am Post subject: la suite du meme bud info supplementaire |
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Loaded 'C:\Program Files\ppModeler\ppModeler.exe', no matching symbolic information found.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntdll.dll', no matching symbolic information found.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll', no matching symbolic information found.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\opengl32.dll', no matching symbolic information found.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcrt.dll', no matching symbolic information found.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\advapi32.dll', no matching symbolic information found.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\rpcrt4.dll', no matching symbolic information found.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\gdi32.dll', no matching symbolic information found.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\user32.dll', no matching symbolic information found.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\glu32.dll', no matching symbolic information found.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\ddraw.dll', no matching symbolic information found.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\dciman32.dll', no matching symbolic information found.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcp60.dll', no matching symbolic information found.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\winmm.dll', no matching symbolic information found.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\imm32.dll', no matching symbolic information found.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\lpk.dll', no matching symbolic information found.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\usp10.dll', no matching symbolic information found.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\SynTPFcs.dll', no matching symbolic information found.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\version.dll', no matching symbolic information found.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSCTF.dll', no matching symbolic information found.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSCTFIME.IME', no matching symbolic information found.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\ole32.dll', no matching symbolic information found.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\CTAGENT.DLL', no matching symbolic information found.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvoglnt.dll', no matching symbolic information found.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\oleaut32.dll', no matching symbolic information found.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\shlwapi.dll', no matching symbolic information found.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\apphelp.dll', no matching symbolic information found.
First-chance exception in ppModeler.exe: 0xC0000005: Access Violation.
First-chance exception in ppModeler.exe: 0xC0000005: Access Violation.
The thread 0xC78 has exited with code -1073741819 (0xC0000005).
The thread 0xF4C has exited with code -1073741819 (0xC0000005).
The program 'C:\Program Files\ppModeler\ppModeler.exe' has exited with code -1073741819 (0xC0000005).
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